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Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
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P***@adobeforums.com
2006-09-05 18:36:35 UTC
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Adobe has decided to discontinue support for Adobe SVG Viewer. There are a number of other third-party SVG viewer implementations in the marketplace, including native support for SVG in many Web browsers. The SVG language and its adoption in the marketplace have both matured to the point where it is no longer necessary for Adobe to provide an SVG viewer.

SVG is an established vector image format. Adobe currently supports SVG in several of its authoring and server products, including Illustrator, InDesign, GoLive, Version Cue, Graphics Server, FrameMaker, and FrameMaker Server.

Adobe customer support for Adobe SVG Viewer will be discontinued on January 1, 2007.

For more information on this decision and answers to questions about the discontinuation of Adobe SVG Viewer, please see <http://www.adobe.com/svg>
B***@adobeforums.com
2006-09-06 15:33:42 UTC
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Paton
Could you please clarify a few points. How long will the existing viewer be available for download from Adobe? Can I make the viewer available on a server after that date? Under the distribution agreement I can make the viewer available on an unlimited basis on tangible media. Will this change?
Thank you.
Bruce Rindahl
P***@adobeforums.com
2006-09-06 16:43:30 UTC
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Bruce,

For answers to those questions and others, please see the product end-of-life FAQ. A link to that FAQ is in the following page: <http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html>

Pat
s***@adobeforums.com
2006-09-06 19:01:34 UTC
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Hi, Pat-
Post by B***@adobeforums.com
Under the distribution agreement I can make the viewer available on
an unlimited basis on tangible media. > Will this change?





For answers to those questions and others, please see the product end-of-life
FAQ. A link to that FAQ is in the following page: <http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html>




Actually, that one point, about distribution on a CD (for example), is not covered by either the HTML news item nor the PDF EOL FAQ. Could you please clarify it?

Regards-
-Doug
P***@adobeforums.com
2006-09-07 17:10:49 UTC
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Doug,

Your rights to distribute Adobe SVG Viewer are not being changed. You may continue to distribute provided you abide by the terms of the distribution agreement. Adobe, however, will no longer be able to provide you with any support for this product after 1/1/2007.

Pat
J***@adobeforums.com
2006-10-04 12:58:32 UTC
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We have a number of large corporate customers who use IE with the Adobe SVG viewer to view and navigate diagrams produced by our software. None of the alternatives you refer to seem to me to be viable as a replacement for the use of the Adobe SVG Viewer with IE, and Microsoft seem to have no concrete plans to support SVG.

Your de-support of the SVG Viewer is going to result in considerable disruption for both our customers and ourselves. Is there a way forward that I am missing?

If you really are determined to withdraw support, have you considered making the SVG Viewer Open Source so innocent third parties have some options?

Are you also going to drop support for the Adobe Reader - after all there are alternative PDF capable products as well?

Regards

John Ridley
d***@adobeforums.com
2006-10-06 04:55:23 UTC
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ADOBE has made its more irresponsible act ever.
There is an Adobe page, and still there with this text.

"""Adobe has taken a leadership role in the development of the SVG specification and continues to ensure that its authoring tools are SVG compatible."""

1.- A Leadership who discontinues SVG and not even mention about in its SVG pages? It sounds great when Adobe states "and continues to ensure".
2.- Why in the SVG's MAIN PAGE of Adobe, there is not even a clue of such an official decision? Visit the links, and unless you enter the forum you will be informed about this.
3.- Why so radical? Your acts look like MS/BG is behind doors. That is a typical MS move. Remember Java?
4.- To me that was a betrayal, and MS will get you sooner or latter with its product "Expressions". Haven't you see it?
<http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/en/default.mspx>
5.- The next text, may be only a few ones will understand ...
The Adobe SVG Viewer v3.0 comes with its own JavaScript engine. This is turned on in browsers that don't support communication between plug-ins and javascript. If you want to turn it on in all browsers, create a SVG tag .... bla bla
The fact that not only SVG, but Javascript too was embeded in that player, was the future of browser programing via Flash because of its counterbalance at programing level via Ajax What is in real risk now is not SVG, it is Javascript. With out it Adobe can´t do nothing against MS.
At least, Adobe should do Open Source its SVG/Javascript engine, and come back a la MySQL when the Expressions begin to show in favor of MS instead of Flex/Flash. With this, all I have to say, is that Macromedia biggest error was its policies with Cold Fusion, like yours will be with SVG, not because SVG, but because Javascript. This is to say, the error with Cold Fusion was not its programing part, it was as a database part. Thanks
d***@adobeforums.com
2006-10-06 05:39:47 UTC
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Finally
So ... How should we call that? hypocritical attitude? Because Adobe used the SVG main page to stablish these statements.
What? so you will remove those pages and everything solved?
Well, Flashers and Flexers have good deals with this partners.

See your own answers
Why did Adobe decide to discontinue support for ASV?
"There are a number of other third-party SVG viewer implementations in the marketplace, including native support for SVG in many Web browsers. The SVG language and its adoption in the marketplace have both matured to the point where it is no longer necessary for Adobe to provide an SVG viewer."

Have matured to that point?
So to the question ...
Will ASV install and run on Microsoft Windows Vista?
"Adobe SVG Viewer is not certified to install on Vista. In addition, users who install ASV on an older version of Windows and then upgrade to Vista should be aware that some features of ASV will not function correctly on Vista. Features of ASV that are currently known to not work on Vista include (but are not limited to) the View Source command, and support for audio."

Thanks
d***@adobeforums.com
2006-10-06 05:04:17 UTC
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Just a litlle more references.
In your SVG MAIN PAGE
"Adobe and open standards
Open standards promote choice, provide lower-cost solutions, and facilitate interoperability. See how Adobe® GoLive® CS2 not only supports open standards, but has been developed using them as a guiding principle."

and it is a link to ... TO YOUR GUIDANCE PRINCIPLES in yor own words
<http://www.adobe.com/products/golive/standards.html>

Why open standards?
Adobe GoLive® CS2 not only supports open standards, but has been developed using them as a guiding principle. There are very good and practical reasons for the choice:

Open standards promote choice
Open standards are not the property of any specific company. Instead, they have been developed by organizations comprised of many technology vendors — from software companies to handset manufacturers. Since different vendors can provide solutions based on those standards, you are free to choose whatever products meet your specific needs. But no matter what solution you choose, you know that it will work in conjunction with another that uses the same open standard. As a result, you never have to tie your content or application's fate to the success of a specific vendor or proprietary technology.

Open standards provide lower-cost solutions
Since open standard solutions are publicly shared among vendors, any company can produce tools that support them. This increases competition, which in turn leads to lower costs for end users.

Open standards facilitate interoperability
When content and applications are created using open standards, they interact with other applications in a predictable way. What does this mean? Many designers and developers probably remember the early days of the Web, when they had to build different sites for different browsers and platforms. But with open standards, there is no need for extensive customization. Instead, you can focus on building your own application instead of trying make it work with proprietary solutions
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